Assalamu Alaikum,
I just wanted to tell you that the age of Hazrat Aisha (RA) when she was married was between 19-22.
wa aleikum salam
jizak Allah for your e mail
however I am still compelled in the light of evidence to say that she was 6 when married and 9 when moved in with the prophet. I cannot buy in the hadith came 100 or 200 years later fabricated by munafiqs because I have studied a bit on hadith and I know the reliability of them, and the ones that are fabricated are exposed as fabricated and the ones authentic are as authentic as the quran and came through the same sources as the quran. The difference of course one is GO'ds word the other is God's meaning but men's word, which can be prone to mistake. But I am sorry to say and actually sad that people have to invent and to try to accuse people the same people who narrated to us the quran word for word, before it was written down in a book, we accuse them of fabricating hadith. It's sad that we need to apologize to the west because they think if you marry a 9 year old it's pedophilia when pedophilia is a sickness that the prophet did not have, and that many americans today have. It's sad that we do that and our own 9 year olds (i'm a teacher) in our schools are having sex now and becoming pregnant and dating and their parents don't know what to do, yet when prophet Muhammad MARRIED AISHA ANd took care of her and loved her he is accused of such an injustice. And it's sad that we apologize and come close to committing a huge sin by denying hadith, because we don't have knowledge and are fast to invent against Allah and his messenger. The prophet sas said THERE WILL COME A TIME WHEN A MAN WILL BE RECLINING OF HIS COUCH (A TIME OF COMMODITY LIKE NOW) AND HE WILL HEAR A SAYING OF MINE AND SAY .. I'TS NOT IN THE QURNAN. WE HAVE THE QURAN AMONGST US AND WHATEVER IS HALAL IN IT WE TAKE AND WHAT EVER IS HARAM WE TAKE, but I ( THE MESSENGER) have forbade them other things.
Allah says in the quran WHOEVER OBEYS THE MESSENGER HAS OBEIED ALLAH.
I pray to Allah that we stay strong on our deen and we do not compromise and bend in the face of attacks from our enemies. If they destroy our hadith they destroy islam. The Quran without the understanding of the prophet and his explanations will open grounds for everyone to interpret it as they want. If we begin to denny one hadith and two and three we will not stop and in a matter of a few years we will end up like Christians.
Why would Alalh not just send the book by itself? Why did he send us prophets? To teach us and explain the wisdom.
However I can see your issue with not understanding some hadith and that is due our lack of knowledge and due to our ummah being weak and due to such people who make videos as the one you sent me. Such people write stuff but in the light of evidence you can only see their desires in there and their inferiority complexes as a response to being accused of having an inferior faith, or a perverted faith because prophet Muhammad married Aisha at a young age.
I hope you forgive me brother for being a bit lengthy on this but it's very important that we understand the seriousness of such statements that have caused people to leave Islam in the past. Such sects have come to live as AHMADIAH, NATION OF ISLAM, PARVAISEE, QURANIATES, SHIAH and other
I hope you forgive me, I am not really directing this towards you but towards all muslims who fall pray to this statement that hadith have been recorded only 100 or 200 years after the prophet. That statement when analyzed in the light of evidence shows that people do not know anything about the history of revelation and preservation of our deen. The first hadiths were written at the time of the prophet. The first compilations were back then, and some sahabas wrote directly hadith on their qurans and the prophet forbade them to do that so they don't mix it as the christians did. But later they were allowed to record it again. Suhail Nafi and Al Zuhri were some of the first ones to have manuscripts on hadith, and the Muatah of Imam Malik came right after, and much earlier than the 200 years after the prophet as some people say (usually making reference to the compilation of Bukhari and Muslim)
I can refer you to the book by M. M. Azami called studies in early hadith literature which can help you to get some understanding of history of hadith and also recommend a course by al Maghrib institute call Chain of Command that you can take if you live somewhere close to where the course is offered.
I pray to Allah that he will keep us stead fast
salamo aleikum
7 comments:
I fully agree with your line of reasoning except that I don't think you should present 9 year olds today as freely having sex. It's probably very rare and most surveys I read about Western kids today put them in their early teens.
salamo aleikum
thank you for your comment
I agree with you that times have changed and the maqasit al shariah teaches us to move accordingly and to take the benefit for the deen, however we cannot appologise or say that it is wrong.
The truth is the truth. There are 9 and 10 year olds grade 5 who are dating older guys, some of them are allready active sexually. They know about sex, and they are more mature than we think. I was reading an article from my home country Romania where two gypsies ages 10 and 14 aprox got married. That is still the culture of some of the romani tribes. When I was in grade 9 around 14 years old there were quite a few girls who were pregnant and they were already do. Therefore they got pregnant at least a year before, and I am sure it was not their first time they had sex.
Thank you for your post
Waalaikum salam.
Thank you for your reply.
In case there was a misunderstanding, I was not offering any apology for our beloved Prophet or saying that our so-called standards today that marriage at the age of 9 is right or wrong.
But I just wanted to point out that you may face difficulty in presenting a picture of 9 year olds today in the West freely having sex (I heard this on your debate with Bob Doe too). It might be a bit stretched. Granted there will be cases but I don't think that is the general picture. Nonetheless, what I think is more true is that there are a lot of young kids aged 12, 13, 14 doing this and this liberal kind of attitude deserves far greater condemnation and correction than proper marriage (which is the point you are rightly making but will face objections if you stress the age as being 9)
I no longer live in the West but did go to school (co-educational school at that) in England in the late 80's. My interaction and observation with the kids then was that this liberal attitude was beginning to appear at the age of 12/13 and experimentation would begin soon after.
I do not know the picture today and you would be in a better position as a teacher but from the surveys I read in the media about the West, the general kind of image is that it is happening in the early teens. Of course, there will cases where it occurs earlier.
Wassalam.
"(which is the point you are rightly making but will face objections if you stress the age as being 9)"
In case of another misunderstanding from my earlier post from the statement above, the objections I refer to is not Aisha (RA) but about the kids today freely having sex at the age of 9.
I stand corrected, however, if it is really the general picture today that this is happening there.
Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DZdLd5e_rE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxGlf8mgLVo
Salam Alaikum. I think kayan is right by saying we should not defend by countering with a statement that western pre-pubertal children(todays puberty average in the west is around 12) engage in sex. Its all about the Aisha(RA)natural puberty line and the fact that it was a Marriage(not a western type relationship) is enough. If people don't find these two arguments reasonable, then like many other truths no matter how clear and reasonable they are. Its just another channel to express their disbelief.
The above videos are very good and very clear on the subject.
salamo aleikum
mash Allah and jizak Allah
the video is great
I will post it on the blog
may Allah bless you all
salamo aleikum
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